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wtsb captured these moments between mitch mcconnell and rand paul. >> i just didn't see an end. i go over and over again. we're willing to compromise and negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i think if we say we wanted to defund it and now we are willing to compromise. i know we don't want to be here, we are going to win this, i think. >> on "the late show" with david letterman, brian williams said we are in a very dark time. >> they have a point to make. they don't like how it's being governed. it's easier to do it from their set of seats in the house. it's a heck of a lot tougher when you have bottled things up and you are where we are. day three, complete paralysis. when i called the u.s. capital of a shooting in washington, i couldn't get anybody. the government workers had been furloughed. >> the latest in sports from betty. good friday morning. >> happy friday to you, mara. >> let's talk about thursday night. buffalo takes on cleveland. the browns are hungry for a third win and tied with the ravens. the browns travis benjamin with an u
wtsb captured these moments between mitch mcconnell and rand paul. >> i just didn't see an end. i go over and over again. we're willing to compromise and negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i think if we say we wanted to defund it and now we are willing to compromise. i know we don't want to be here, we are going to win this, i think. >> on "the late show" with david letterman, brian williams said we are in a very dark time....
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stephanie miller, what about the microphone, which caught mitch mcconnell and rand paul? how telling is that? what does it mean? >> well, rand paul apparently is one of the 100 people that gets to vote on laws in our country and doesn't understand what it means when someone says i have a microphone on. i'm all wired up here. but i guess what we learned is they think they're winning. hey, check the polls, buddy. you're not winning. 70% something of the american people in every poll i've seen, ed, do not want the government shut down over defunding obama care and are most of those doctors proctologists? because i think i know where they're pulling their ideas out of. is this a strategy for 2014? i mean, if rand paul is talking to mitch mcconnell, saying, hey, it's really a bad thing for the democrats to say they won't negotiate, we really got 'em now, aren't they just winging it and haven't they backed themselves into a corner? your thoughts. >> they don't have a plan, and the numbers are showing it. the problem is, ed, they're appealing to a part of america that most of us
stephanie miller, what about the microphone, which caught mitch mcconnell and rand paul? how telling is that? what does it mean? >> well, rand paul apparently is one of the 100 people that gets to vote on laws in our country and doesn't understand what it means when someone says i have a microphone on. i'm all wired up here. but i guess what we learned is they think they're winning. hey, check the polls, buddy. you're not winning. 70% something of the american people in every poll i've...
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mitch mcconnell's office said they were confused why the meeting was called. a white house official said this was so the president could make clear the need for a clean cr and raising the debt ceiling without any conditions attached to it. that is not exactly a recipe for deal making at this point. i think that this has at least as much potential to sort of make it less likely or the same amount of likelihood that a deal gets done as makes it more likely a deal gets done. it seems like we're headed for a relatively short meeting in which entrenched positions are rehashed. they both come out to the cameras and condemn the other one, which really doesn't, as you might guess, move us all that much closer to a solution here. >> i think you're right on that, chris. i think that's the mood. >> and john boehner's most recent public statement was his "usa today" op-ed, where he said, the fact is that washington democrats have slammed the door on reopening of the government by refusing to engage in bipartisan talks. they continue to reject our calls for fairness for al
mitch mcconnell's office said they were confused why the meeting was called. a white house official said this was so the president could make clear the need for a clean cr and raising the debt ceiling without any conditions attached to it. that is not exactly a recipe for deal making at this point. i think that this has at least as much potential to sort of make it less likely or the same amount of likelihood that a deal gets done as makes it more likely a deal gets done. it seems like we're...
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. >> i'm ari melber, after mitch mcconnell mentioned he was wearing a microphone? >> all of that plus valerie plame is with us and has written a spy novel and the plot sounds very familiar. >> good one. >> 24 hours after the capitol hill shooting and what a difference, back to business as usual for this congress, which hasn't been much business except a shutdown. on the left that's what the capitol was like yesterday after a woman rammed the white house gates and led police on a chase that ended with her being killed by capitol police. on right president o bam am and vice president biden walking out of the white house going to lunch. they are trying to determine what caused miriam carey to drive to d.c. with a toddler in the car and engage in capitol police. she had a history of mental illness and believed she was being stalked by the president. luke russert was on hill during the chaos and now here with the latest on the investigation. >> reporter: nbc's pete william, tour'e says this woman was a dental hygienist, 34 years old and that the doctor she originally wo
. >> i'm ari melber, after mitch mcconnell mentioned he was wearing a microphone? >> all of that plus valerie plame is with us and has written a spy novel and the plot sounds very familiar. >> good one. >> 24 hours after the capitol hill shooting and what a difference, back to business as usual for this congress, which hasn't been much business except a shutdown. on the left that's what the capitol was like yesterday after a woman rammed the white house gates and led...
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the hillary clinton wing, the analogy is mitch mcconnell. >> hold on, i want to bring in robert. robert, there's a bunch of different cleavages behind the scenes that were very open a few days ago, and they've been pushed behind the scenes because republicans have done a good job of presenting a united front. but we heard this amazing report in "the new york times" about a meeting in the senate in which you had had sitting senators, kelly ayotte among them, mitch mcconnell, screaming, yelling at mike lee. what was that all about? >> it really comes down to hard politics. when you talk to senate republicans, and i've talked to them after their luncheons that usually happen on tuesday afternoon, they can't stand that senator cruz is going at them publicly and trying to undermine their own conservative reputations. and that's what really gets at them, gets under their skin. >> is that going to come do anything? i mean, think what's interesting so far is the house republicans and senate republicans, we saw the open mike moment between rand paul and mitch mcconnell had done a very goo
the hillary clinton wing, the analogy is mitch mcconnell. >> hold on, i want to bring in robert. robert, there's a bunch of different cleavages behind the scenes that were very open a few days ago, and they've been pushed behind the scenes because republicans have done a good job of presenting a united front. but we heard this amazing report in "the new york times" about a meeting in the senate in which you had had sitting senators, kelly ayotte among them, mitch mcconnell,...
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now, you will hear john boehner and mitch mcconnell and these other republican epps say we don't want to default, but everybody knows and it's written about in all of the papers that their basic theory is, okay, if the shutdown doesn't work, then we are going to try to get some extra concessions out of the president. we'll put a long laundry list, all of the things that we want if we can't get passed on our own. if we don't get it, we'll tell them we won't vote to pay the country's bills. we'll let the country default. i'm not making this up. it's common knowledge. every reporter here knows it. i want you to understand the consequences of this. as reckless as a government shutdown is, as many people as are being hurt by a government shutdown, an economic shutdown that results from default would be dramatically worse. in a government shutdown social security checks still go out on time. in an check shutdown if we don't raise the debt ceiling they don't go out on time. in a government shutdown, disability benefits still arrive on time. in an economic shutdown, they don't. in a governmen
now, you will hear john boehner and mitch mcconnell and these other republican epps say we don't want to default, but everybody knows and it's written about in all of the papers that their basic theory is, okay, if the shutdown doesn't work, then we are going to try to get some extra concessions out of the president. we'll put a long laundry list, all of the things that we want if we can't get passed on our own. if we don't get it, we'll tell them we won't vote to pay the country's bills. we'll...
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and so i would say keep an eye here on mitch mcconnell. he has in fact kept his powder sort of dry through all of this. at some point he's going to look at whether that potential senate majority is slipping out of his grasp. >> we will continue to follow it and i thank you, karen and joanne, for helping us work our way through this first day of the shutdown. we also continue to watch the floors of both the house and senate with, again, no deal in sight. so this morning the departments of housing, labor, energy, commerce and the epa are largely closed. national parks are closed not just in washington but across the country. there are more than 400 of them. by the way, today just happens to be yosemite's 123rd birthday. some less visited and privately owned sites and attractions are still open. arlington national cemetery, george washington's mt. vernon. also open, the post office and air traffic control towers. even though the smithsonian is closed, attractions like the 45.5 hope diamond are still closely guarded and there is also a mainten
and so i would say keep an eye here on mitch mcconnell. he has in fact kept his powder sort of dry through all of this. at some point he's going to look at whether that potential senate majority is slipping out of his grasp. >> we will continue to follow it and i thank you, karen and joanne, for helping us work our way through this first day of the shutdown. we also continue to watch the floors of both the house and senate with, again, no deal in sight. so this morning the departments of...
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mcconnell said about the levels. democrats would accept these frozen budget levels for the government for the next year or just something democrats would accept for the next few months. >> for the period of a continuing resolution, we have agreed and keep in mind we oppose that number. that is something that was below sequester levels. it's inappropriate and it hurts people. we understand that it can't be our way or the highway. we are willing for the continuing period and resolution to accept $986 billion as the spending level. the republicans, for once i agree with mitch connell. they need to take the win. this is a big concession for congressional democrats and instead what they are doing is -- the word tantrum has been thrown around, but look at the man from indiana. he went on to say that he doesn't even know what that soming is. this is the childishness that is going on. as a result you have got thousands of kids who can't go to their head start program and real children who have cancer who can't participate in
mcconnell said about the levels. democrats would accept these frozen budget levels for the government for the next year or just something democrats would accept for the next few months. >> for the period of a continuing resolution, we have agreed and keep in mind we oppose that number. that is something that was below sequester levels. it's inappropriate and it hurts people. we understand that it can't be our way or the highway. we are willing for the continuing period and resolution to...
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the problem the president has and harry reid and mitch mcconnell and the speaker has. nobody in politics is trusted anymore. there may be a time when you went on television and spoke, at least the facts were straight. when obama says this is a shutdown and they are taking nonnegotiable commands about taking a bill already in place. that's in flux. one more vote on obama care. no acceptance of fact. they speak from different pages. that's why it's very hard, if there's still somebody in the middle to figure out what's going on. >> not only are the facts fungible but who is speaking for the party is something that remains a mystery. when i say the party, the republican party. the question is for the president, who has taken a much harder line stance than he did in 2011, what does the white house do next? paul ryan made a statement a couple of days ago saying he was confident the president would cave and negotiate over the debt ceiling. i don't know. based on the president's behavior the last 24 hours, he seems very resistant to any kind of hostage negotiations. >> look,
the problem the president has and harry reid and mitch mcconnell and the speaker has. nobody in politics is trusted anymore. there may be a time when you went on television and spoke, at least the facts were straight. when obama says this is a shutdown and they are taking nonnegotiable commands about taking a bill already in place. that's in flux. one more vote on obama care. no acceptance of fact. they speak from different pages. that's why it's very hard, if there's still somebody in the...
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mcconnell and rand paul circulating. let me play what they said. >> i'm all wired up here. >> i didn't see an end. i go over and over again, we're willing to compromise and negotiate. i don't think the poll tested we won't negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do too. i came back from a two-hour meeting with them and that was basically the same view. >> i think if we keep saying we want to defund it and fought for that now we're willing to compromise on this, i think -- i know we don't want to be here but we're going to win this, i think. >> we're going to win this, i think. a candid moment, not candid he didn't know the mike was on. we know this kind of negotiating and conversations happen, but to be privy to it aulsz fascinating. >> there's a fascinating split in the republican party. a lot of established republicans come from swing states, purple states, just a shade red states are thinking this is a terrible strategy and idea. when you're dealing with conservatives that come fro
mcconnell and rand paul circulating. let me play what they said. >> i'm all wired up here. >> i didn't see an end. i go over and over again, we're willing to compromise and negotiate. i don't think the poll tested we won't negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do too. i came back from a two-hour meeting with them and that was basically the same view. >> i think if we keep saying we want to defund it and fought for that now we're...
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there's an idea floated around here to keep in mind this is all fluid, that mitch mcconnell is perhaps putting forward a one-week government funding bill extension to come out of the senate. there's hesitancy about from senate republicans we hear on that by putting the house colleagues on the record for that type of vote. dave camp, chairman of the house ways and means committee told me that's something that they could possibly take a look at. from where we stand right now, tour'e, you'll have a repeat of saturday night from the house republican conference. they are going to put forward this bill they know will be shut down by harry reid. then it goes back to the house and then john boehner has a decision to make. does he shut down the government or put a bill that could get democratic support, which is the clean one and move forward, or is there some miracle hue deanny, something out of the mitch mcconnell hat, we've seen this in the fiscal cliff negotiations in 2010 that could avert the government shutdown at least for a week and we negotiate this further? that's what's happening her
there's an idea floated around here to keep in mind this is all fluid, that mitch mcconnell is perhaps putting forward a one-week government funding bill extension to come out of the senate. there's hesitancy about from senate republicans we hear on that by putting the house colleagues on the record for that type of vote. dave camp, chairman of the house ways and means committee told me that's something that they could possibly take a look at. from where we stand right now, tour'e, you'll have...
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reid, boehner, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell are all expected to meet with president obama at the white house around 5:30 p.m. today. okay. moving now to the gripping documentary "let the fire burn," which chronicles the battle between philadelphia police and the black liberation group move in it resulted in the deaths of 11 people, including 5 children. 12 years in the making, the film tells a tragic tale of how paranoia and racism can turn deadly. >> three dozen philadelphia policemen surrounded the building after a move member was spotted on the roof wearing a hooded mask and carrying a shotgun. >> we intend to seize control of the house. we'll do it by any means necessary. >> every one of us knew that someone was going to die. >> and joining us now is the director of "let the fire burn." jason, thank you for being here. why did you make this film? >> thank you for having me. i remember this incident from when i was a kid. i was growing up in philadelphia. it stuck with me, i think, partly because it was so tragic and so traumatic for the whole city, but partly because i was a
reid, boehner, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell are all expected to meet with president obama at the white house around 5:30 p.m. today. okay. moving now to the gripping documentary "let the fire burn," which chronicles the battle between philadelphia police and the black liberation group move in it resulted in the deaths of 11 people, including 5 children. 12 years in the making, the film tells a tragic tale of how paranoia and racism can turn deadly. >> three dozen...
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this time i don't think mitch mcconnell is interested in making any deals. he's already come under a lot of fire from the conservatives in his home state and the national conservatives who are advertising in his re-election race trying to bump him off in his primary. so without him helping -- stepping in to make that deal, i don't think for a lot of the reasons that were cited in manu's story we really have people who have either the credibility or just the ability to make the kind of deal it would take. >> we will be watching. thank you manu raju and molly ball. >> thank you. >>> next, imagine a country where the health of 1 in 5 is used as a political pawn. that's coming up. >> what's your sense of the end game here? do you think your fellow republicans would rather shut down the government than pass a cr without an obama care limit? >> i guess it depends on how many people are controlled by ted cruz. ♪ [ agent smith ] i've found software that intrigues me. it appears it's an agent of good. ♪ [ agent smith ] ge software connects patients to nurses to t
this time i don't think mitch mcconnell is interested in making any deals. he's already come under a lot of fire from the conservatives in his home state and the national conservatives who are advertising in his re-election race trying to bump him off in his primary. so without him helping -- stepping in to make that deal, i don't think for a lot of the reasons that were cited in manu's story we really have people who have either the credibility or just the ability to make the kind of deal it...
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. >>> earlier monday the president phoned top leaders including harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy pelosi and john boehner. last night on the house floor boehner did an impression of how it went. >> i didn't come here to shut down the government. how do we give a break to all the big businesses out there and yet stick our constituents with a bill that they don't want and a bill they can't afford? that's what this fight's all about. i talked to the president earlier tonight. i'm not going to negotiate. i'm not going to negotiate. i'm not going to do this. well, i would say to the president, this is not about me and it's not about republicans here in congress. it's about fairness for the american people. >> joining me now is democratic congressman from new york charles rangel. he sits on the house ways an means committee. sir, good morning. thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> now, congressman, while this showdown has been going on in washington, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle has been raising money on the shutdown. i understand that we have a technical difficulty with the congr
. >>> earlier monday the president phoned top leaders including harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy pelosi and john boehner. last night on the house floor boehner did an impression of how it went. >> i didn't come here to shut down the government. how do we give a break to all the big businesses out there and yet stick our constituents with a bill that they don't want and a bill they can't afford? that's what this fight's all about. i talked to the president earlier tonight. i'm...
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mitch mcconnell, a traditionalist, is trying to fend it off. john boehner, an institutionalist, is trying to fend it off. but ted cruz is what's driving this train. they are at war with their own government, and they're seeking to take it down. >> and john boehner -- >> that's a shame. >> and john boehner won't bring it to the floor house, because he knows it will pass but that would be bad, bad stuff for the republicans, right? >> john boehner is either going to go down in history as one of the courageous speakers, or he's going to go down as one of the worst, based on how he handles this going forward. i have great respect for him. he is a decent person. and i know this must really drive him crazy at his core, because he is an institutionalist. but it's his responsibility. he is the speaker of the entire house. >> yeah. congressman john larson, good to have with you us tonight. appreciate your time. thank you for your passion. it motivated me. thank you. >>> coming up, fox news stages a glitch watch on obama care and the big rollout today. pl
mitch mcconnell, a traditionalist, is trying to fend it off. john boehner, an institutionalist, is trying to fend it off. but ted cruz is what's driving this train. they are at war with their own government, and they're seeking to take it down. >> and john boehner -- >> that's a shame. >> and john boehner won't bring it to the floor house, because he knows it will pass but that would be bad, bad stuff for the republicans, right? >> john boehner is either going to go down...
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and we saw great reporting in "the new york times" about back door meetings with mitch mcconnell just screaming at ted cruz. and so there's going to be pressure. you don't want to be on the wrong side of a 72% number in american politics, period. and they're doing that and they're doing it again in such a way that hurts their leverage in doing things like negotiating things about the debt ceiling or in tinkering around with reforming obama care. so i think that it's not just moderates, it's people who don't want to be on the other side of this kind of losing battle. >> and we saw all this activity yesterday in a bad way on capitol hill. i mean people were clearly rattled, amanda. it's only been a few weeks since the navy yard shooting, obviously the very deadly shooting. there was a tweet that's getting some attention from arkansas republican tim griffin and he seemed to imply some connection between the shots fired and the tension inside the capitol. stop the violent rhetoric, president obama, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, #disgusting. that was deleted a little bit later but it doe
and we saw great reporting in "the new york times" about back door meetings with mitch mcconnell just screaming at ted cruz. and so there's going to be pressure. you don't want to be on the wrong side of a 72% number in american politics, period. and they're doing that and they're doing it again in such a way that hurts their leverage in doing things like negotiating things about the debt ceiling or in tinkering around with reforming obama care. so i think that it's not just...
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this process is unlike two years ago when he was talking with mitch mcconnell. he's not doing that now. the level of estrangement this time is beyond anyone's belief and the house is virtually leaderless although the speaker of the house is known to be someone who makes a deal, who wants to make a deal. i don't know about you, gene, but just in talking to people, the level of isolation from reality that a small group of republicans seem to have and the death grip they have on john boehner's speakership is really striking. >> it is. i can't recall and i don't know that this has happened before. my favorite quote from that whole insanity last night of the house keeps throwing stuff up and the senate keeps swatting it back, it was congressman peter king who said the situation has somewhat been lost control of, which i thought was a wonderful twisted way of expressing what all of us think. totally out of hand. out of control. but meanwhile, happy obama care today, right? >> exactly. >> the thing that's at the center of this whole dispute is up and operational and it
this process is unlike two years ago when he was talking with mitch mcconnell. he's not doing that now. the level of estrangement this time is beyond anyone's belief and the house is virtually leaderless although the speaker of the house is known to be someone who makes a deal, who wants to make a deal. i don't know about you, gene, but just in talking to people, the level of isolation from reality that a small group of republicans seem to have and the death grip they have on john boehner's...
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first up is this hot mike moment between senator rand paul and cincinnati minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> do you have a second? >> i'm all wired up here. >> we're going to compromise. i don't think they poll tested "we don't negotiate." i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. and i just came tackback from that two-hour meeting with them and was basically the same view privately as it was publicly. >> i think if we keep saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for that, now we're willing to compromise on this, we're gonna -- i don't know we don't want to be here, but we're going to win this i think. >> guys, how have you not learned the assume the mike is hot lesson? which brings me to a second great moment. this is gop house member marlon sutsman doing his best rodney dangerfield impression. >> wee not going to be disrespected, so that's where we're at today where we have to get something out of this. and i don't know what that even is. >> i don't even know what it is. we got to get something. of course democrats, including the president, pounced on
first up is this hot mike moment between senator rand paul and cincinnati minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> do you have a second? >> i'm all wired up here. >> we're going to compromise. i don't think they poll tested "we don't negotiate." i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. and i just came tackback from that two-hour meeting with them and was basically the same view privately as it was publicly. >> i think if we...
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the idea of standing by mitch mcconnell who doesn't want to negotiate. you have to negotiate with the house. then you have boehner who doesn't speak for the caucus. it's like the old line of i want to talk to europe, who do i call? >> it's the question maybe i am too traditional, but seems like this is a big problem for the government. people in the jobs, mitch mcconnell. if he was invited to the white house, would he not go. would boehner not go. you have discussions looking for a solution. shut down is likely. we agree that the congress can survive that, but this is a dress rehearsal where they are higher. did you get a partner? for that you have to do it. >> there is an opening. he's the president of the united states. he can look at the senate republicans who share his desire. we spent a lot of time. >> the republicans don't control the situation. >> you are talking aboutic maing a deal. they can influence their peers and they can be strengthened. the notion that president obama has no one to reach out to, this has been the excuse for six years and w
the idea of standing by mitch mcconnell who doesn't want to negotiate. you have to negotiate with the house. then you have boehner who doesn't speak for the caucus. it's like the old line of i want to talk to europe, who do i call? >> it's the question maybe i am too traditional, but seems like this is a big problem for the government. people in the jobs, mitch mcconnell. if he was invited to the white house, would he not go. would boehner not go. you have discussions looking for a...
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. >> the impact may be to ensure that rand paul and mitch mcconnell if he gets re-elected remain in the minority in the senate because the house republicans are in their safe seats. they're not in that much danger. a few of them might be, but by and large, they're okay. but you know, the republican party could have taken the senate next year. >> let's now get some other perspective on this. sam stein and then luke chime in. think about the open mic moment you heard, the arguing over the tweets. the bigger picture is the capitol hill police working for no money putting lives on the line and the many others dealing with the shutdown in a very real way. sam, you first. >> yeah, i think it's taking a toll right now. you see republicans going to this piecemeal approach. they recognize the cuts have a human cost. so they're trying to change the politics around this discussion saying we'll willinging to fund nih, reopen the world war ii memorial, do this for the capitol hill police, and the president saying no, we need a full approach. we can't just piecemeal fund the government. i think the r
. >> the impact may be to ensure that rand paul and mitch mcconnell if he gets re-elected remain in the minority in the senate because the house republicans are in their safe seats. they're not in that much danger. a few of them might be, but by and large, they're okay. but you know, the republican party could have taken the senate next year. >> let's now get some other perspective on this. sam stein and then luke chime in. think about the open mic moment you heard, the arguing over...